well i give up with part 15

[radio8z]

Originally Posted by XRQKFM

...the measurement begins where public land begins.

This may be true for carrier current on a campus under 15.221 but I am not aware of any such stipulation in either 15.209 or 15.219 for AM operation nor in 15.239 for FM.

Care to elaborate?

Neil

[XRQKFM]

You will find it in Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The FCC still has to abide by it; they can't trespass on private property to take measurements without a warrant.

According to one agent; they must be able to see an antenna to issue a NOUO. That stems from several errors going after the wrong person and losing in court over it.


Steve
www.outlawradio.us

[kc8gpd]

Originally Posted by XRQKFM

According to one agent; they must be able to see an antenna to issue a NOUO. That stems from several errors going after the wrong person and losing in court over it.


Steve
www.outlawradio.us

hahahaha serves them right. we need to start taking back our rights and freedoms that are being stolen little by little each time congress meets!!!!!

[kc8gpd]

i have always wanted to put a homebrew solar powered mono fm way deep in the woods at a nice high location. 30 watts into a 4 bay sectorized dipole and a wifi microwave link system back to town then from there it goes over the internet to another location. use an omni on the ap side and a directional on the client/tx site side. this should create enough plausible deniablity that is even if they feel like venturing deep into the woods to find such a thing. limit broadcasts to night time when all the PD's, engineers and FCC agents are likely to be off duty as well.

[XRQKFM]

Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution; private property rights and the FCC still has to abide by it. The agents need a warrant to enter and take

According to one agent we spoke to: The agents must be able to see an antenna; because of some errors in going after the wrong person or raiding the wrong dwelling resulting in injury. A few losses in court, resulted in the changes.

Steve
www.outlawradio.us

[radio8z]

I believe agents' trespassing would fall under the Fourth Amendment rather than the Fifth. Maybe the Fifth would apply if they ring your doorbell and you refuse entry. Good luck with that.

I raised the question regarding "the measurement begins where public land begins." since this might be interpreted to mean that the field strength limits can be as specified at the property line and there are not restrictions on private property. Except for 15.221 there are no exceptions for the field strength limits on private property.

Should not those living in an apartment complex, for example, be protected from RF interference despite their being on "private" property?

Neil

[kc8gpd]

i need some schematics for a carrier current coupler. only needs to handle 15 watts pep 5 watts rms

i want to run cquam. it's the only thing that i can safely do from a 1st floor apartment and still be able to cover an audience.

actually it's the only option for an apartment since there is no real dirt ground access which by the way the fcc has been interpreting grounds lately you would be in violation of the 3 meter rule if you tried to ground it anywhere in an apartment because the ground is longer than 3 meters to the service entrance and/or any dirt ground.

[kc8gpd]

if this apartment was mine and i lived here alone i would pull up the rug put a copper ground screen under the rug in a 15 x 25 room run ground straps across it and ground it to every outlet ground in the room then put carpet back down and ground my tx at floor level tune for 100mW and suspend the 3m antenna wire from the ceiling. bet that thing would get out good under those conditions

[XRQKFM]

Should not those living in an apartment complex, for example, be protected from RF interference despite their being on "private" property?

No! Nobody forces them to live there. Otherwise dimmer switches and EMI generating devices would be banned! Clearly many devices in a complex; cause far more interference, than any 25mw Ramsey transmitter ever will.

As anyone who lives in a apartment community knows: You are told when where and how; while living there.

Steve
www.radiobrandy.net

[radio8z]

Originally Posted by XRQKFM

No! Nobody forces them to live there.

So following this line of reasoning it is a burglary victim's fault because he chose to live there?

I agree that there are many sources of RF interference besides part 15 intentional radiators and wonder why part 15 emission standards do not seem to be applied to light dimmers, etc. but my point is that the part 15 rules for hobby broadcasting do not specify location (except for 15.221 campus carrier current). There is another part of the rules which does reference location regarding Class A and Class B computing equipment where the distinction is made between home and other locations but this is not included in the parts governing hobby broadcast equipment.

Neil